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Attractive Town Centre Tree Under Threat - Council Vandalism?

Tuesday 15 February 2011, 13:21
By John Smith

The endangered tree that stands between Totally Floored and the LibraryI have just been advised that SSDC, are arranging to chop down the lovely tree outside Totally Floored. Why I ask? I believe that Somerset County Council (bless their cotton socks) won't adopt the pavement till this tree has been murdered.

I am told that the problem is that people may have complained about the pavement being slippery because of fallen leaves/berries/blossom (not necessarily in that order). Can I ask for someone in authority to explain to our readers the whole picture, before this lovely tree has been fatally chopped?

Having been resident in Wincanton for over 30 years it seems a terrible waste and it reduces the attractiveness of our town centre. If this poor tree is to suffer execution by chop or saw (what a terrible thought) I am sad to say that SSDC must also then pass the same sentence on the smaller tree within 10 yards of the guilty tree. I would also suggest that SSDC must also add the amazing tree across the road behind Colbert-Smith. The wind regularly blows all sorts from this one onto our pavements. Come to mention it the trees fronting Carrington Way Car Park should come down too. That same wind blows stuff from them too.

The tree near the entrance to Carrington WayThe tree behind Colbert-Smith, near The Co-op

So there it is, if SSDC carry out this heinous act they will be setting a dangerous precedent that will force them into a situation of town centre ethnic cleansing. Our poor trees (unable to speak for themselves) will be culled.

Am I the only person in Wincanton who cares about seemingly daft decisions being taken? Speak up people, because if you don't our town centre will be rather bare looking. Having said all that, clearing the trees from Carrington Way Car Park could pave the way for SSDC to convert this Car park to a multi-storey unit. Now isn't that progress?

I appeal to the good people of Wincanton. Dare to register with The Window and speak up. Comment on articles and show all the people of this great town do care.

Editors Comment

The tree concerned was obviously planted as were all the others, after sensible thought about how to make the whole area more attractive. Times it seems have changed so I am shocked and appalled at the high handed attitude of Somerset County Council who it appears are imposing this decision on the District Council who in turn appear to go along with it without reference to the town council or to local people. Again it looks as if the blame culture and health and safety is quietly driving us all mad. Because some person might slip on a pavement and because some trees might scatter their leaves on the pavements all trees on pavements become vulnerable to being cut down. No matter that former generations were happy to plant and nurture trees, now it is better we have a town denuded of trees than the possibility that taxpayers be liable for an extreme and unlikely eventuality.

What does our local County Councillor (Anna Groskkop) have to say and do we not have at least a moral right to a public meeting to explore this whole issue of liability with district, town and county and concerned citizens able to look at this before an act of District and County Council vandalism is carried out? Add your comments below.

- John Baxter

Photos by John Baxter




Comments

Jane
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Trees under threat
Reply #1 on : Tue February 15, 2011, 16:25:39
I am totally floored that this poor tree is under threat, and I think that it would indeed pave the way for others to be treated in the same way.(puns intended!)
In any case, I think that it has much more to do with the shiny paving stones. They look very nice, but get very slippery in the slightest of icy conditions.
suzy
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tree under threat
Reply #2 on : Tue February 15, 2011, 16:40:12
I have never heard anything so redculouse, there are trees all around that will cause leaves to blow onto the pavement. Does this mean that they are going to remove them all. Not only are there trees in various places in wincanton that are on public land there are those in the church yard that over hand walkways. People have trees growing in there front gardens that drop leaves onto walkways/pavements are they going to tell us next that we arn't allowed to grow treesin our gardens. And i agree with theabove comment about the slabs themselves being slippery, i often have to use crutches due to my health and i will actually cross over to avoid walking on these slabs as i find my crutches slip so as not giving me there suport. Praps instead of cutting down a helpless tree they should change the slabs to a better gripped surface.
Nick Colbert
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The health & satety Gestapo
Reply #3 on : Wed February 16, 2011, 12:00:11
Is that the faint whiff of the health and safety Gestapo I can smell, telling the council someone might slip on a leaf or a berry and then successfully sue for damages.

I am afraid once the tree has been cursed by the health and safety Gestapo it has been doomed and will die. No one in authority will listen to you for fear a freak accident will lead to them being blamed for going against this advice.

The powers that be think you should be grateful the state cares for you so much, in fact they have recently done a study showing if they reduce the speed limit to 1 mph there will be hardly any deaths on the road.

But then we may all die of boredom.

Please will someone rid us of the nanny state.

Save the tree, I'll take my chance and risk it if you will.
Last Edit: February 16, 2011, 17:16:09 by Nick Colbert  
Chas the Sheltie
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Tree under threat
Reply #4 on : Wed February 16, 2011, 15:15:47
Have our local authority decided to take this action without visiting Carrington Way. The tree may make a minor contribution to the problem but cutting it down will not prevent people slipping on the wet paving. The paving slabs are the main obstacle to standing upright and giving them a similar treatment to that given to Bristol Airports runway would rectify this and we could retained the trees.
Clive R
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trees under threat
Reply #5 on : Wed February 16, 2011, 15:52:52
Odd isn't it? When the bureaucrats blunder they are never at fault. Trains run late - wrong snow or leaves on the line! Totally inappropriate, and very expensive, paving put down, not their fault must be the trees!Instead of cutting down the trees why don't we cut out the blunderers who wasted our money by putting down the wrong paving? Only one problem there - bet you cannot find them!
The general state of the roads and pavements is a national disgrace and those same bureaucrats need to start applying themselves to taking the all too apparent danger out of those, but probably cutting down trees is a much easier option.
Dont hold your breathe waiting for a response from them - they are never wrong!
johnsmith
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Dead Tree Walking
Reply #6 on : Thu February 17, 2011, 15:42:23
This is an update on the situation with our beloved tree.

As a result of this article I have been communicating with our local District Council. I advised them that we would be asking some specific questions, and as a result they have given us a press release to answer those questions. The questions and answers are as follows:

1 – My assumption that County was behind the request to remove the tree was wrong. So, sorry County, I consider myself suitably rebuked.

2 – How did this issue about our beloved tree come about?

Answer:
This was a town centre enhancement scheme jointly funded in 2006 by English Heritage, Somerset County Council - SCC, Wincanton Town Council - WTC & South Somerset District Council – SSDC.
SSDC facilitated the scheme which replaced a patchwork of surfaces including uneven broken paving and lifting tarmac.
English Heritage funding required natural stone paving. There were three types of natural paving approved by SCC for highway use, (one of which was not being quarried at the time). Following consultation with local stakeholders including businesses, a site visit to a natural stone highway scheme elsewhere in Somerset, and a well publicised ‘drop-in’ event, the paving was selected because it best fitted with the surrounding stone buildings and had been approved for highway use.
The scheme was completed in summer 2006 and as part of the standard post completion process there are two remaining stages of a safety audit which are submitted to SCC, this is always carried out after this type of scheme.

3 – Who asked for the risk assessment?

Answer:
The safety audit process identified (what was already well known locally), that there had been a higher than usual number of slips/trips on the paving. Special tests were undertaken and the surface scored within ‘normal tolerances’ but at the higher end of this assessment. To help get the area adopted by SCC and improve the surface for pedestrians SSDC undertook algae treatments and have put in place additional cleaning.

4 – Assuming that this was brought about by people slipping, who are these people? Where did they slip? Under the tree? Outside Julian Shave’s shop? Outside the Library?

Answer:
There is a higher than usual number of reported slip/trips in the area but regrettably – although as you might expect - when these are reported the precise location has not been identified by those reporting it, simply that it is within the area. The White Beam tree that overhangs the surface causes shading and drops berries making the area more slippery for pedestrians.

The surface provides a cost effective and attractive enhancement; the removal of the tree is part of a package of measures to minimise the likelihood of slips and possible injury to pedestrians. A replacement planting scheme could include another tree subject to advice on an appropriate species.

Fresh questions to be addressed:

It seems clear that this current line of action is not based on well documented facts, but on an assumption that because this tree sheds berries annually, that it is clearly responsible for the higher than average incidents of slipping on the pavement in this area. As there is no evidence to state that people slipped under the offending tree I suggest that this fact alone is grounds enough to cancel this order to remove the tree.

I’m sorry if by bringing this issue into public view causes more work and hassle for our local District Council. This is not, and never was my intention. My reasons are very simple.

• Is this proposed action justified?
• Is there clear and documented evidence to prove the guilt of this tree? From the District Council answers provided, there is no evidence to prove where people slipped.
• What were the weather conditions when the slips occurred?
• Did all the slips happen in winter? In wet rainy weather? During periods of frost or snow?
• Did the safety audit even take into consideration that the actual paving slabs themselves may be the major culprit?
• Apart from these questions, what about the other trees in the vicinity, or indeed anywhere in town? You could end up with a precedent that leads to a mass cull of berry bearing trees because of the risk to pedestrians slipping on pavements.

Conclusion:

There can’t be any factual conclusion. There are too many unanswered questions proving that this decision to remove a tree was not taken from any reasonably considered position.

In fact, from the comments made, I believe that there is more evidence to suggest that the actual culprit in this whole issue is the inappropriate paving used in the original scheme, obtained to comply with English Heritage regulations, but with hind sight (always easy) not the best solution. That means that SSDC should be issuing a sentence of death on the pavement, and not the tree.

I don’t doubt for one moment the District Council’s genuine concern to minimise risk to pedestrians. As chairman of WBT I enjoy an excellent working relationship with all our Councils, and that goes on. My only desire is to ensure that issues like this one are decided because the full facts are taken into account, and not based on assumptions that can so easily leave a bad taste in the mouth afterwards.

So, at the very least we ask the District Council to guarantee that this tree will not be removed until a proper assessment, based on facts, has been completed.

When all is said and done, if it can be factually established that this tree is the cause of all the reported slips, then SSDC would be right to proceed to remove the tree. However, if the facts show that the problem lies elsewhere, then SSDC should transfer their attention from the innocent tree and towards the real issue.

This issue has clearly sparked some interest, and a healthy response from some of the Window readers. It’s very easy to complain about local authorities. Over all they are a very hard working bunch, working on our behalf, and deserving of our thanks and support. This is about a bad plan that affects our town and its communities. Because it’s a bad plan it is also bad for our District Council, because it will result in lots of extra work and hassle for them. Sorry guys.
DM5757
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Whitebeam outside the Library at Wincanton
Reply #7 on : Thu February 17, 2011, 16:02:56
There are two points which should be considered before this tree is felled. The first is the cause could be the paving stone; I understand that there is the same problem with slipping outside the Town Hall and there are no trees on which the blame could rest. The second is that there is a grit container outside the library from which any member of the Big Society could spread grit on the slippy area. I pass there nearly every day on my way, as a volunteer, to the Red Cross Medical Loan Depot, and would be happy to do so - provided that I should not be held responsible for any accident in that area!
suzy
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Re: Attractive Town Centre Tree Under Threat - Council Vandalism?
Reply #8 on : Thu February 17, 2011, 18:13:04
I can state that from personal experiance that the Paving slabs when wet from rain are leathal, it has nothing to do with the tree, its leaves or berrys. I think a thorough investergation is needed into the paving being the possible issue with slipping before the poor tree is felled for no reason.
James Phillips
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Re: Attractive Town Centre Tree Under Threat - Council Vandalism?
Reply #9 on : Sat February 19, 2011, 18:15:43
If only the council knew how amusing their silly bureaucratic babble is to those of us with better things to do with our time...
johnsmith
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Tie a yellow ribbon.
Reply #10 on : Mon February 21, 2011, 13:37:55
Nice touch with the ribbons. It's not an oak, but it'll do. Let's hope that sense prevails and we don't end up with bunches of flowers and a wreath.
Sleuth
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Amazing
Reply #11 on : Mon February 21, 2011, 17:43:11
I am blown away by this passionate response about a tree. So many issues to shout about, but a tree captures the imagination. Maybe there is some hope out there. People power, because people care. Isn’t that great? Now all you need is some people at the other end of the picture to listen.

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